Local "Fake" news story

Discussion in 'News' started by HarveyH54, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. HarveyH54

    HarveyH54 Active Member

    https://www.wftv.com/news/local/a-security-threat-lurks-in-the-sky-around-oia/867204333

    Think it's time to find another news channel... I can understand Orlando International Airport looking for ways to grab some free government cash, but sort of doubt the statistics listed. Don't think we have drones that can fly 260 MPH, to chase manned aircraft. Who lot of incidents, but at the speed commercial flights are going, and how tiny hobby drones are in comparison, they'd have to be getting real close to a window, to be identified as a drone. A "sighting" couldn't possibly last more than a blink of the eye. Chasing and playing games with a manned aircraft would take a whole lot of practice and skill, to come even close, intentionally. Some fool, who would make such an investment, risk fines and jail time, or at the very least, make an attorney happy, would be one to post videos online (and get caught). What's the point, if you can't brag, get the recognition?

    Really surprised that there aren't Dash Cams for planes, video saved on the flight recorders, or even a seperate 'Black-Box'. Pretty sure there are a lot of pilot/ground control related incidents, which get spun into the weather/mechanical category, to protect the public confidence. Personally, they need pictures to prove it, or it didn't happen. Vision isn't always accurate, our minds tend to fill in the blanks, when surprised by unexpected things. I've had a Dash Cam on my vehicle over ten years now. Caught a few strange things over the years, even posted a few videos on YouTube. Only had one accident, but the video saved me a whole lot of legal-grief. Guy on a motorcycle, passed me (stange, no-passing zone), cut in very close in front of me, hit his brakes. I was driving to work, didn't expect to get passed, specially in such a place. If he was in such a hurry, why hit the brakes, so close? He got rear-ended, thrown from the motorcycle, messed up pretty good. Motorcycle totaled, my car caught fire (totaled). Didn't pursue the loss of the car, nice car, a Grand Prix, but figured it cost more to recover anything, and long time waiting for a check. The man had plenty of more pressing problems.

    This news story is weak on facts, shouldn't have been ran like that. Purely political and financially motivated, no proof to backup any of the claims, no sources listed.
     
  2. Ouimont

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    Wow this is the second article im reading this week painting drones as a bad image. That's terrible, I don't know what kick these media outlets get from it.
     
  3. Codestar7

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    [QUOTE="HarveyH54, post: 65648, member: 9373"

    First we need to STOP calling them "DRONES", drones drop bombs. Have you been dropping bombs on your neighbor? No,...I didn't think so. Quadcopter works just fine. Second, people don't know what a Quadcopter or a "Drone" is. They hear about them being used in the military and jump to conclusions. I've known a couple of airline pilots in my time they will always let a joke get out of hand. And when it does they disclaim all knowledge, (They have to protect their FAA License). So if we use proper language and describe the capabilities of our Quadcopters correctly there won't be so much misinformation. One mans opinion.
     
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  4. Jagerbomb52

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    According to the Canadian legislation governing UAV/drones, they are now officially called Remotely Piloted Aerial Systems (RPAS) here in Canada. LOL
     
  5. Codestar7

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    Sure, let's get complicated about it.
     
  6. HarveyH54

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    Drones, like it or not, is what most people identify with, Quadcopter isn't as accurate, since quite a few have 6 rotors now days. Vast majority of people have never seen a military drone, rare to even see a picture or video (usually crashed). The military drones are airplanes, not multirotor, although they did use some DJI 'Drones' for a while, before learning that their location and usage was being shared by the firmware.

    There are a lot of things, for which the accepted and commonly used term, isn't accurate, just the sort of world we live in, just roll with it, or complain about, but it's unlike to change anything. Drone was probably used as marketing, since military drones are cool, and have awesome abilities, long range, and weapons. Ours, are really toys, in comparison, but the coolness factor sells.
     
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  8. Bruce

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    Every since the quadcopters came out, everything radio controlled is being called a drone , especially if it has a camera on board.......Just about everybody I talk to who does not fly them, think we are spying on everybody.....I fly at around 200 feet when not over my own property and that high with my Q500 4K, I can't even determine if a person is a man or a woman, let alone what they are doing, I am just taking scenery pictures....but they all think we are spying on them.....of course they forget that just about everybody they see these days has a camera in their hand and they are ready to use it anytime,,Smartphones spy on you more that these high flying drones ever could...and they do.......the police can even track you by tracking your cell phone, and recording all your information right from your phone...now which one is really spying on you, your phone or that little toy drone ?
     
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    LOL- "In one case, a pilot spotted a drone being flown at an altitude of 51,000 feet, the report said."

    Wow - someone has a heck of a controller to pull that off.
     
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  10. Codestar7

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    Excellent point, Ditto that!
     
  11. Codestar7

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    This is just more fantasy, fear generator, equating military planes that drop bombs with remote control toys.
     
  12. Bruce

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    and it was probably 20 miles away too......
     
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    Wow, up 9.65 Miles (15.54 km). I don't know about anyone else, but my 4K video cuts out around 350 Meters. About the fastest my bird has even flown is approx. 35 km/h. I don't think I can chase a plane. Someone has a great imagination.
     
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  15. Bruce

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    I kept saying that they were quadcopters too, but , yes quadcopters are quadcopters, but they have evolved into more that 4 props now, so quadcopter does not cover all of them anymore......Now they call everything that flies and is radio controlled , a drone...and the non flyers , will always refer to them as drones and associate them with military weapons....For decades we had RC airplanes and helicopters, and nobody thought anything about them....Now all of a sudden they are the devil's tool and must be regulated by the federal government.......
     
  16. HarveyH54

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    Before quads, RC aircraft as a hobby was sort of a niche, little expensive to get into beyond the toys, and took some learning. Quads and mass productions made it cheap and easy to fly RC, and cameras on everything really increased the popularity. Before quads, there was a natural need to be responsible, if you wanted to spend more time fly, less time repairing. Hobbies aren't usually much fun, if you mostly spend a lot of time and money on equipment, you spend less time actually using for the fun part. Onboard computer chips take over much of the skills once needed to be learned the hard way.

    As with anything popular, there are people who will see profit and control potential. The trick is to not squeeze too hard, to make your source less interested. Marketing is kind of an art, even a negative image, is still good publicity, and helps sell, since people will talk about what they see and hear, draws attention to the product. In our case, it's not the product, but how it's sometimes misused.

    I don't really understand how a commercial jet pilot could spot and identify a drone. From the ground, they get difficult to see after a few hundred feet. You have to know it's there, and the general direction to be looking. A plane is moving pretty fast, hopefully the pilot's attention is focused on his controls and indicators, not out the window, looking for tiny dots.

    Use to be the occasional UFO reports that got people stirred up. Now, we almost never hear about UFO sightings, they are all drones now.
     
  17. Bruce

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    Well if you can not identify a flying object...Then it IS an Unidentified Flying Object, no matter where it came from but like you said, they are all drones now, even if you see it 20 miles away at 51,000 feet...I have a Q500 4 K and just past 700 away and I am having a hard time seeing it, that is why I never fly more than 700 away and just over 200 feet high. and if I hear a small plane in the area I will land, until it is gone....
     
  18. HarveyH54

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    I think more wishful thinking, and wanting to draw attention. The space alien UFO thing is past gaining much attention, really only appeals to a small audience, media doesn't care. Now drones are the new threat to life on this planet. Hopefully, that fear of the unknown will be over quicker than space aliens. Least kids can pick up a quad a Walmart, crash it into the house, the family SUV, spy on the neighbors a little, before it gets stuck in a tree, or goes for a swim in the pool. Those kids will grow up, know that quads aren't evil, and it's just propaganda.
     
  19. Bruce

    Bruce Active Member

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    Maybe we need more drones shaped like flying saucers , that fly real fast, maybe 80 MPH so they can chase the jets at 51,000 feet.....I am still trying to figure out why an airliner is flying at 51,000 feet in the first place. I think of those altitudes as more for military aircraft........
     
  20. HarveyH54

    HarveyH54 Active Member

    An RC frisbee would be a cool toy, probably a little safer than blades. Maybe someday, but seem possible, they did a lot of high dollar research on flying discs in the alien invasion days. Really surprised nothing came out of it, or maybe they did, and don't want us to know just yet.

    Can't really trust much of anything in the news these days. The aren't impartial, or take a neutral position, always some spin. or omitted facts, to help sell. I got tired of searching, and reading the same news story from multiple sources, just to get the full story, and still only seemed semi-complete and accurate. Reporting should focus on the facts and details, leave the opinion up to the reader, and not trying to manipulate opinion.
     
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