Typhoon H manual - cleaned Up and updated (70pgs)

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  1. Charles Ogren

    Charles Ogren New Member

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    #1 Charles Ogren, Jul 11, 2017
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    This manual looks like the original but is not I have taken their manual cleaned it up and made the info more presentable IMO, add updates, and info from forums and but in a troubleshooting guide. I have not used the wizard so it will need more work. I will also add the checklist I use which maybe help others make their own or use this one. Hope this manual will clear up things for some. OH there is an addendum with the GUI, and other info to help clear up the manual. its 74 pages long. Hope it helps.

    8/23 Updated to clear up Smart mode operation and some errors I missed. Being your own editor you miss stuff. Also the GPS info. and a Pic on the National Airspace System (US) [for clarity I hope] was added. It is still a work in process as I test modes and acquire other info.

    10/14 Uploaded a new version of the my manual with corrections.
    10/18 OOps uploaded the wrong file this is the right one its now 78 pages long. I'm working on more changes (i.e. adding more pictures and clearing up bad wording etc.)
    03/24/18
    Well I cleaned up errors, updated the TASK section and add some more pic's for clarity, maybe :). Added a section on HDMI, on how to set it up and use, also what its capable of for output.
     

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  2. John Manlow

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    Excellent effort, I will find these very useful and I commend you.
     
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    If you want you can add them to the file section, just go to Downloads at the top of the page and once there click on Add Resource.
     
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  4. Rudy

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    Great job. Just a question How do I know when the sattelites are locked?
     
  5. Charles Ogren

    Charles Ogren New Member

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    I have been thinking about your question and sorry for the wait. But this topic is one that is hard to cover as the terminology is very hard to overcome. So I have attached 2 pdf's I hope will clear it up. I have shorted the first and gotten ride of the tech. junk I hope. The second is the brief tech. info on the Typhoon H GPS system - there is a much more HI tech manual. The jest of everything is it can do a lot of stuff like GEO-fencing, and what systems it uses its just who and how they used it's capabilities.

    Thank U for the question.
    I will update the manual as I missed how important this is to some.
     

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  6. Rudy

    Rudy Member

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    Thanks, very interesting
     
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  7. Rural-Geek

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    Thank you so much for this hard work! ;)
     
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  8. Bo Arabäck

    Bo Arabäck New Member

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    Thank you very very much for the updated manual. I just purchased a H after my Q500 and Q500 4K and I am very impressed of the H. Now I am playing with the panorama and putting the 360 pictures up at Facebook.
     
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  9. pctyphoon

    pctyphoon New Member

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    That is a GREAT manual and it took a lot of work to get that done. Thank you!
     
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  10. Luke

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    Hey, Charles:

    Thanks for going to all this trouble. I just downloaded your work and will print it sometime soon to read.

    When I bought my first Yuneec Q500 4K in 2015 (I now own 4 and last week bought a new Typhoon H, which I haven't had the time to unbox yet) I dreaded reading the manual for the H.

    Your comment in regard to "tech junk" is right-on. The manual for the Q500 is terrible. (My degree is in Mass Communication BTW and I taught at a university here in Texas) and as I read through my first Yuneec manual, I gave it a D-.

    My first drone was a DJI Phantom 3. I have to admit I gave DJI a big fat F for customer support after the sale, but I continue to give Yuneec an A for customer support after the sale. But Yuneec needs all the help they can get with their clarity, communication and content in regard to their manuals and you are doing the rest of us a very big favor for adding some sense to their very murky messy that they seem to have a track record for.

    When I win the Texas Lottery, I'm buying you a Tesla :) - I'm buying one for Eric Matyas too .(Eric are you listening?)
     
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  11. Charles Ogren

    Charles Ogren New Member

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    Well I now have a Typhoon H without the Realsense Module and have done some test flights with it. I have updated the manual to add (incorporate) the differences of it to the RS version. The SMART flight mode I need to test again with both versions which I hope to do when the weather breaks. But I added the info to the manual and posted the updated manual in the 1st post. I attached a pdf here of the SMART mode (ie Follow/Watch Me) aircraft operation/behavior. I think to long to write out.
     

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  12. Mapaou

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    Great work
     
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  13. rdonson

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    Thanks for the amazing work. You have addressed many mysteries I’ve had with the Typhoon H.
     
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  14. Terry Bruce

    Terry Bruce New Member

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    This has obviously taken a lot of work to acheive, not to mention the experience required to expand upon the original.
    Thank you, there are many helpful bits of info.
     
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  15. Charles Ogren

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    03/24/18
    Well I cleaned up errors, updated the TASK section and add some more pic's for clarity, maybe :). Added a section on HDMI, on how to set it up and use, also what its capable of for output. The update file was saved in the first post. its now version Vcho3-1.
     
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  16. Rudy

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    I appreciate your work to do this for all H-owners
     
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  17. pctyphoon

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    Thank you for doing this. I have used your manual a lot.
     
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  18. h-elsner

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    #18 h-elsner, Mar 29, 2018
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    I have downloaded the latest version Vcho 3/1. Great work for all YTH users. I like a lot that people sharing their knowledgre and create documention and update it. Iknow very well that this is a lot of work.

    One point, that came in my mind:
    * On page 43 it says „If the Typhoon H is not bound correctly – No telemetry data will be displayed“. This is not true since FW update introduced „Dual Band Control Redundancy”. The only way to see the correct binding during flight is the small antenna icon 2.4 in the upper right info bar of the screen (and of course in the binding menu).
    It’ possible to fly without correct binding but this is dangerous and leads to unexpected and strange behavior of the copter and possibly to a crash.

    br HE

    Edit: Updated Version of FlightLog analysis added.
    FlightLog_analysis.pdf
     

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  19. Charles Ogren

    Charles Ogren New Member

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    Thank You for the very useful information you provided.

    The page you refer to is the Binding process and the ST16 and Typhoon H are in the binding mode and this is the normal operation you should see.

    The points you state are true. That was update version B25. [i.e. Dual Band Control Redundancy - When the 2.4G signal is lost, users can control the aircraft through 5.8G Wifi as redundancy.]

    You are describing a Fault condition.

    That Said.

    But you bring up a very interesting question – will the ST16 bind to the Typhoon H via the 5.8Ghz (the redundant or back-up) if the 2.4Ghz is bad, broken or whatever. Or does this change over to 5.8Ghz only occur after the ST16 and Typhoon H have been properly bonded first.

    If the 5.8Ghz is used for control (or maybe binding) you should lose the video on the ST16 Yes?

    Also, if in-flight the Video signal (5.8Ghz) would be lost before the 2.4Ghz normally. [a sign you should be bringing the Typhoon H back closer to you].

    I have not tested or heard of this happening.

    Good Question – This is one to test (if possible) or research more.

    Thank U
     
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  20. h-elsner

    h-elsner Active Member

    If the ST16 is bound to camera (5GHz WLAN connection established), you can start and fly the Typhoon H via this WLAN connection without having 2.4GHz RC connection (no binding between ST16 and RC transceiver in copter). You will not see a difference during flight so far. Also video connection is still there. Control commands needs little bandwidth compared to video downlink. Also you will get telemetry back over WLAN.

    But WLAN range is lower compared to 2.4GHz RC and due to WLAN latency, control commands are delayed. This may be dangerous especially when you try to land or other difficult operations.
    I have seen some crashes caused by this during FlightLog analysis. In most of this cases the Typhoon H was bound to the Wizard before and the operator forgot to bind to ST16 again. He will not discover that except the very small 2.4-icon on the screen.

    To identify Telemetry over WLAN connection, check column "fsk-rssi" in telemetry file. If fsk-rssi value = zero then WLAN was used. If the value is always zero, then the copter was not bound to ST16 at all, only camera.

    br HE
     
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